It's because you don't trust God!

Is Leading people to Jesus and them Leaving them to Jesus a biblical idea?

Then Andrew brought Simon to meet Jesus. Looking intently at Simon, Jesus said, “Your name is Simon, son of John–but you will be called Cephas” (which means “Peter”).  John 1:42  Andrew took, or lead Peter to Jesus.  Jesus took over from there.  When we say we’ve led someone to Jesus, we mean something else.  We mean that we’ve “evangelized” them and, in most cases, brought them to a decision etc.  It’s then up to disciplers to take over where evangelizers left off.  I believe this is a false distinction which has a multitude of negative consequences for both the church and new disciples.  But, that’s not the primary point of this post.

The extreme opposite thinking is that “once a disciple has been made, we should keep our mitts off.”  “What’s that matter?” they say, “don’t you trust God?”  Just one question for today:

Is Leading people to Jesus and them Leaving them to Jesus a biblical idea? 

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  1. I believe this is why Paul mentions that there is no lack of mentors, but a severe lack of spiritual fathers, as he was to Timothy.

    Mentors keep their disciples at arm’s length, but spiritual fathers make discipleship personal.

    Love ’em and leave ’em gives people the luxury of walking away from one another.

  2. Peter says:

    No, if we are just making a bunch of living stones, there is no way that God can attain His desire. He wants a House, not a lot of rubble. We must learn to be master builders, like Paul, so that we may build God’s House with gold, silver, and precious stones. Paul was not just preaching Christ for people’s initial salvation, but He was bringing people into the Body of Christ, where they would be saved to the uttermost.

  3. David Woods says:

    I believe the Holy Spirit CAN be trusted to guide us. I also believe He can be trusted to guide those we are trying to win to Christ. Sometimes, He will guide them to US. Other times, He’ll guide them away from us, and to a person who is more in tune with what they need. Other times, as with myself, people in general cause more confusion than solution and He needs to do a start over, a re-do if you will, where it’s just Him, and they. One on one, mono y mono, it’s go time Mandelbaum. (Just joking, I’d never actually watch that show today). There is no right answer to this because some will need more guidance and help to stay on track until they figure out how to receive guidance from above than others.

    The thought that there is just one way to win someone to Christ, that we must follow a particular pattern, is a flawed one. We must trust the Holy Spirit to guide us into knowing how to guide them to Him, and then yes, when it’s time, it’s “mitts off” unless they ask for help now and again. We are, of course, Biblically required to give this help, edification, etc. when needed, but by the guidance of the Holy Spirit, not a “10 steps to a perfect you” program.

    There are people in the Bible that Jesus mentored, and there are people he briefly taught and then told to “go and sin no more”. There are also times he taught multitudes, and expected them to understand, and take it from there. Or not. The choice was theirs. He didn’t assign a disciple to each of them to make sure they “made it”, He did what He could, and trusted the Holy Spirit with the rest. He, being our example, showed us how it is to be done–through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. He constantly prayed, and did only what He saw the Father doing. Nothing less, nothing more. It’s that “nothing more” part that just grates at some people.

    When I say this, I usually get responses about how it’s “the spirit”, and how you can’t trust what your spirit says, or what YOU THINK the Lord is saying. I’m not talking about MY feelings here, I’m talking about the Holy Spirit communicating HIS feelings to ME. Those who don’t think they CAN hear His Voice, or don’t think that they ever HAVE, should, I very much agree, stick to scripture.

    For the rest of us, don’t be afraid to follow that still, small voice that you know is His. Even if you mess up a time or two. What have you ever learned to do that you didn’t mess up at a little at first while you were learning? Messing up is healthy, it’s what keeps us humble. Following that Voice is what makes you, and them, a disciple of Christ.

  4. Laurie Norris says:

    The problem that I see with your question is this- If some “follower” followed a “leader” to Jesus, why under any circumstance would that “leader” then leave Jesus or his new follower?
    Spiritually we can only follow as far as the ascension where he meets us in a new way. At that point, we are given to one another.

  5. Tom Schultz says:

    I presume there times when leaving them is unavoidable…take the Ethiopian that Phillip baptized…the Holy Spirit whisked him away before he could do any discipling!
    And then there is the condemnation of Jesus about the Pharisees:
    Matthew 23:15(NET) “Woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You cross land and sea to make one convert, and when you get one, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves!
    Clearly their discipling was suspect! 🙂
    The general picture in the early church seems to be discipling happening in the context of gathering together. I don’t think ‘leaving them to Jesus’ is the proper pattern, but it could well involve others.

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