I No Longer Know What APEST I Am

What’s APEST? It’s an acronym for the people gifts in Ephesians 4:11. Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Shepherds and Teachers. Forget for a moment that there is adamant pushback against two of these (Apostles & Prophets) and slight disdain for one (Evangelists). There are still large segments of the Church that put ALL of the emphases on Pastors […]

A Crisis of Sorts Regarding APEST

First, what’s APEST?  APEST in an acronym for the people gifts in Ephesians 4:11: “So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherd/pastors and teachers.” The purpose of these gifts are for the current equipping of God’s people for works of service, for the building up of God’s body (Church), for reaching towards unity […]

Can’t I Just Be The Warrior Prophet That God Wants Me To Be?

I’ll have to admit that I get a little stirred up when others say “how” my prophetic gift should be practiced. Some say that the Old Testament models of Prophets are no longer valid. In part, I agree. Mostly because I would probably have been stoned by now for saying something which didn’t come to […]

'Redundant Foundations…' are the reason Apostles & Prophets don't exist today?

The construction of the church necessitated the foundational work Apostles & Prophets. When referring to God’s household, the church, Paul wrote: “…having been built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone” (Ephesians 2:20). Premise 1 – While the work of evangelists and pastor/teachers is important, only the […]

If the Church is built upon the foundation of apostles and prophets. Why are so many trying to build it on the foundation of pastors?

Possible Points of Considerations: There’s only one church and Jesus is it’s Chief Cornerstone. There’s only one foundation to the church.  We can’t lay foundations over foundations. Prophets & Apostles are no longer needed. Someone’s got to step in. The Bible has been completed and there’s no more special revelation. They existed in their time […]

Ephesians 4:11 – Who's Sent?

Apostles, Prophets, and Evangelists go out on mission, Pastors and Teachers are supposed to stay put.  At least that’s the sentiment of many within the church.  Actually, it’s quite a hurdle to get people to accept that there are indeed still Apostles, and Prophets walking around.  I try to make it easier or more palatable […]

"The Characteristics of…" an Apostle, Prophet, Pastor-Teacher, or Evangelist.

One of the things I decided a couple of years ago, was that I was no longer going to argue whether or not the Ephesians 4 giftings of Apostle, Prophet, Pastor-Teacher, or Evangelist were “for today,” or not.  Of course there is little debate about the validity or the existence of Pastors, teachers, and evangelists.  When […]